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MR. AXILROD. I would say, President Corrigan, that we did hold out the hope, but mostly we didn't really want to be in a position of prejudging it at this particular time. I guess we mostly felt that something was needed between the Committee and GNP. If we don't have some aggregate--I don't see much else to choose from, the others may speak for themselves--between the Committee and GNP, then in that case you might just as well start controlling interest rates depending on your best assessment of what is going to happen to GNP. That is what we were grappling with.
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MR. WALLICH. I would like to note that if you want a survey of targeting possibilities, some are not in the paper. While I wouldn't recommend these, I think there are serious contenders. One, on the basis of the research done here at the Board, is that the use of intermediate targets is inefficient and that better and more precise results can be obtained by targeting on the real sector directly. On the other hand, there are many arguments against that, including the political one, but it is something that one ought to bear in mind as one makes these choices. Also, I note that there is nothing in the paper about exchange rates. Again, while I don't think exchange rates are a proper target for this economy, they are targets that are used in other countries, in the EMS countries for instance. That again is something to think about. I would think certainly that exchange rates might play a greater role in our targeting in the future than they have. We have a little sentence [on them] in the directive but not much attention is paid to them. Finally, there is a reference to nominal GNP. You may recall that Martin Feldstein came here a few weeks ago and gave us a talk recommending that we target on that. I think that's dangerous advice. It means playing God, and the central bank should be a humble technician administering the aggregates and not trying to say what nominal GNP is to be.
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MR. MORRIS. I think we need a proxy--an independent intermediate target-- for nominal GNP, or the closest thing we can come to as a proxy for nominal GNP, because that's what the name of the game is supposed to be. If we have to target something that is not predictably related to GNP, which M1 has not been in the past two years, one of two things can happen. One is that we can do as we did in 1981 and say the M1 shift adjusted, which was our target, is coming in too low and we are just going to let it come in low--we're not going to use it as a target de facto. I think that was the right decision. If we had tried to hit our targets for M1 in 1981, we obviously would have put too much money into the system. I think the targets have misled us this year. That is, up until October when we finally caught up with it, it seems to me that the monetary aggregates misled this Committee into following a much more restrictive policy than we intended. And that is reflected in a nominal GNP growth this year, which we're now estimating at 3.6 percent, that I don't think any of us a year ago would have [favored] as a target for nominal GNP. It seems to me that the best proxy for nominal GNP in this world of enormous change is the rate of growth of debt. Now, that may not be a perfect proxy, either. But we certainly don't want to go back to interest rate targeting. Politically, I don't think we could adopt a nominal GNP targeting approach even though theoretically that is what we ought to be doing. I don't think we can do it. We need a proxy for nominal GNP.
CHAIRMAN VOLCKER. What is that political objection?
MR. MORRIS. Well, let's say the President comes out in January and says we are going to have 12 percent nominal GNP growth, and you go up before the congressional committee in your Humphrey-Hawkins testimony the next month and say we're going to finance a 9 percent nominal GNP growth. It seems to me it is not well suited to the needs of the central bank to be that far out on a limb.
CHAIRMAN VOLCKER. How far do you think we can go in that regard by saying we're going to project a 9 percent credit growth or 9 percent M2 growth or something that is inconsistent with the 12 percent [nominal GNP growth]?
MR. MORRIS. I would merely submit that we've been getting away with this on the money supply for a number of years. I'm quite amazed that we have. But I think it's very clear that the intermediate target should not be politically sensitive. And the wonderful thing about the rate of growth in the money supply, for all of its problems, is that it was never a politically sensitive item such as the unemployment rate, or interest rates, and so on. Nominal GNP, if we were to use that as a target, would be a politically sensitive target, and we ought to avoid it for that reason. But we need a proxy for it.
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MR. CORRIGAN. Just a simple case: Assume that we have not only a central tendency but a tremendous convergence that says nominal GNP is going to grow by 9 percent; prices will rise by 4 percent and real GNP by 5 percent to make it nice. Then we say we think M2 and M3 and total credit will look like X, Y, and Z. But then this central tendency [puts our forecasts] in a different light than the old forecasts if, as we get into the year, there's a marked departure in actual performance of the economy from the central tendency even though the Ms and whatever else we use in our steering devices look all right. The question is: Do you contemplate any more of a direct linkage between what we would do with the steering devices or targets and that central tendency forecast?
CHAIRMAN VOLCKER. Well, I'm not sure; my instinctive answer would be that I'd try not to make the central tendency all that prominent in terms of what is desirable. But I think we are going to be forced into precisely what you are saying, after some statement. It probably will be viewed more against the Administration forecast or some congressional forecast. They will say: We think a minimum adequate growth is X and if it's below that, are you going to ease?. And if X is low enough, our answer might have to be yes. I don't know how to state it or fuzz that up, but at some point that's precisely what I would expect to happen.
MR. WALLICH. I might have to state the associated increase in inflation.
CHAIRMAN VOLCKER. Well, you can't tell. Suppose after all the different permutations and combinations, the inflation rate is high and the real growth rate is low; we'd have a different answer than if real growth is low and inflation is low. One can [consider] any other combination of those. I'd try to talk my way around it. I think the Administration is going to have a low real [GNP forecast], as a matter of fact, because Mr. Feldstein is so preoccupied with not overestimating. But where I'm a little afraid of getting trapped is this: If they have high inflation and high real growth and the Congress says that's just fine, we're glad to live with 5 or 6 percent inflation and we want 5 percent real growth--that's not what the forecast is going to be but suppose it were--we would say that's much too much inflation and we're satisfied with much less real growth. Then we'd have a real problem, I think.
MR. PARTEE. Yes, if we get a high nominal, then we really have trouble. However it adds up, 11 or 12 percent is a problem.
CHAIRMAN VOLCKER. I could picture that the happy staff optimism on inflation is right and it is coming in around [their forecast], but the real growth isn't doing very well. They might say: My word, you're doing much better on inflation than you're supposed to be doing in some sense and you're not doing very well on real growth, so you obviously have to ease up. That, I think, is going to be a big problem. And it's going to be more so in that connection [depending on] what we say is the central tendency.
(FOMC transcript, December 1982)
Brad DeLong and others have been extolling the potential benefits of the Fed's targeting nominal GDP. And I think that economically speaking, that is the way to go. But my Political Constraints Hypothesis says that the Fed does not want to put itself into a position where its policy decisions will subject it to political pressure that threatens its independence. "The intermediate target should not be politically sensitive" makes a lot of sense from a political economy perspective.
It will be interesting to see from the Minutes of this week's meeting whether the Fed considered GDP targeting or other aggressive options. Today's policy statement doesn't make mention of it - the committee essentially chose to hold pat. A very disappointing decision:
To support a stronger economic recovery and to help ensure that inflation, over time, is at levels consistent with the dual mandate, the Committee decided today to continue its program to extend the average maturity of its holdings of securities as announced in September. The Committee is maintaining its existing policies of reinvesting principal payments from its holdings of agency debt and agency mortgage-backed securities in agency mortgage-backed securities and of rolling over maturing Treasury securities at auction. The Committee will regularly review the size and composition of its securities holdings and is prepared to adjust those holdings as appropriate.
The Committee also decided to keep the target range for the federal funds rate at 0 to 1/4 percent and currently anticipates that economic conditions--including low rates of resource utilization and a subdued outlook for inflation over the medium run--are likely to warrant exceptionally low levels for the federal funds rate at least through mid-2013.
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